Episode #36 You Might be an Emotional Eater If...
This week Jessica and Beth discuss the myriad ways that emotional eating shows up. Hint - there's more to it than eating all the things when you are mad or sad.
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You are listening to Wait a minute, with Beth and Jessica, episode 36.
I'm Jessica Pearson, certified life coach. And I'm Beth Barnett, Babel integrative nutrition therapist. Before we get started, I wanted to do a quick recognition that this episode is airing around our one year podcast anniversary. Is it really? Yes. Good for you for remembering . I know. I feel like we forget our like work anniversary cuz it's in the summer and we're busy, or not busy enough, so we just kinda, yeah.
So I was like, Hey, we started this podcast September, 2021. . And so I just wanna hunt ourselves on the back. I'm proud of us for We too. We made it showing up . I know. Yeah. And I just, I think it's like we talked ourselves through the noise of like maybe why we're all the reasons why we're not supposed to do a podcast.
But instead, we both decided to listen to the voices, said this would be fun for us, and that we love it as a creative outlet and we actually enjoy doing it. And over the last year, I think we've both had friends and listeners who reach out to tell us that they've found value in it, which is totally the icing on the cake.
Yeah, I can think of several where people were like, oh, that was really interesting and it made them, especially some of our guests that we've had on , for example, the pelvic floor one recently. People been like, whoa. And thinking about, not even from a post-pregnancy thing, but just as.
Pelvic floor in general and what that is. So yeah. And I love how we've been able to tie all these other topics to diet culture too. Yeah. In a way I don't love it cuz it just shows how expansive it's . But it's also just so great to know that there's all these other ways that people could bring in awareness through other facets that aren't necessarily through seeing a nutritionist or something like, So anyway, I thought you might like this too.
It was funny. When I was on my girls' weekend last weekend, one of my like very best friends that I've known since elementary school was like, how much money do you get for doing this podcast ? She thought we were like, Scrooge mcd, ducking, like diving in gold coins and just I was like, oh no, we're not monetizing it yet.
Maybe someday. But I was like, we really just do it for fun and because it provides value to people that might. Being a place to work with us at this time. Yeah. Wouldn't that be something? I guess because there is the people out there and the, the famous podcast people that do make a ton of money off of it.
And I'm like, you can absolutely, you totally can. And I'm like I wonder what, how and why. But anyways, and so I don't know if you guys, listeners have noticed that we at this time don't have ads on it and we. For a reason. Yes, we could do that to create income for us, but we're not ready. Or we're not, we want to do that.
Yeah. Yeah. I think right now we have on average about a hundred listeners, which is amazing and I'm so glad you were all here and thank you for your support. But I think we would need a thousand to even, I don't even know how many listeners, Wendy, you know what? It's not like anything that's ever been important to me.
Cuz it's not why. Yeah, it's not why we do it. I wanted to do it. Yeah. It's not at all why I wanted to do it. It's wanting to get the information out without having to write. Yes. , we're like, thank goodness we're we suck at blogging. It is so hard and I still will post something because it's oh, we need SEO or the, the internet bots needs some new content, but it's really like blogging was never our thing and podcasting just seems to come a lot easier to us.
I agree. Okay. I wanted to talk about emotional eating. Again, I know I don't think we've done like a specific podcast in emotional eating, but we do talk about it in various other topics, right? . And so the reason why I wanna talk about it in depth today is because like it came to my attention that someone might be emotionally eating, but have no identification or recognition.
, or they wouldn't call it emotional eating. Okay? So then therefore, like me talking about emotional eating, Doesn't like the message won't get across to them cuz they're immediately like, but I'm not an emotional eater. I do this other thing. So this is my friend who's a life coach. She's been a guest on our podcast and she, her coaching skillset is different.
This is not her zone of genius , right? And so she came to me and she's you know what? I just now realized I am an emotional eat. , but I didn't know that I was emotionally eating because my definition of emotional eating is different than what I thought it was. Oh. So she's if you had asked me a week ago if I was an emotional eater, I would've said absolutely not.
Because in her mind, and what I think a lot of people think emotional eating might be, is we're seeking self-worth in food. Or we're having an emotion like sadness and trying to fix or escape that feeling with food. Okay. And she was thinking Sad. And I am pretty self confident. I have all the self-worth in the world.
But here's my problem is I just can't stop eating. Like I just have to overeat and I don't know why. Is it like a continual eating or like at mealtime? She keeps going. I think it's both. So for her at Mealtime, she is seeking the physical sensation of over full. Because to her it felt very satisfying and safe.
To feel over full. . But then also at times she would find herself like over snacking. You come home from work and then she's I needed a snack. But then it was like I couldn't stop snacking cuz she was also at snack time seeking that sensation of over fullness. Gotcha. So I know I can identify with the feeling of over fullness as well and so I can see why maybe you wouldn't think that was emotional eating, but it totally.
Yes. I actually have heard of this and do work with people about feeling over full. Yes. Like being, feeling beyond satisfied to be okay to stop eating. Yes. Which I think is different than when you eat too fast and then you realize you've eaten too much and you're uncomfortable from the sensation of having that much food in your body.
And so those are different. And I too, To this certain times, and particularly I notice it around my really big childhood comfort foods, if there's anything that involves cream gravy, which is very hard for me to stop, like I, it just is yeah, so comforting, so good. It's so good, and then all the sensations are so comforting to me that I go beyond and I know it.
I can hear myself in my head being like, I need to stop because I am full, but I am unable to. Yes. Yes. I think that this is until it's gone. Yes. This is so common. Because we're not necessarily identifying with any other feeling. We're not necessarily identifying that we need to fix the feeling or even that we need to create a feeling.
It's just this food is so delicious. I want to keep going, but it's so delicious to me because of all of the like comfort, many years of comfort of those tastes. Yeah. So I'm really emotional in a positive way. In one sense because it is so comforting, but in another sense it's not a positive because now I'm really uncomfortable once my stomach has let my brain know what all is happening, how full it is, and how uncomfortable it is.
Yeah. Yeah and actually, so this person also did share. She's I also noticed that I do eat quickly. Because she's rushing to that sensation. Oh, isn't that's interesting. Heard that one. Yeah. It's not like a mindless, oh, I'm eating fast. Like she is aware. , or at least now she is aware.
She's I know I eat quickly because I'm running towards that feeling of overflow. Wow. And so for her, that's good awareness. Yeah. That's why I was like, okay, this is the life coach coming in. Like I know that you have some skillsets in this, but it just wasn't connecting to the food part of it for her.
Uhhuh. . And then for her too, like her kind of new mantra, the thoughts that she'd been working on is I can feel satisfied and safe. So like for her, the safety component came in when I'm not over full. Like I can stop when I'm like regular, full, and still feel safe and satisfied. So that like for her and because she is knows how to self-coach, it's like a quicker connection.
I think for a lot of people that we work with, this is something that does take a lot of time. Yeah. Because what I think happens is over time like. Oftentimes as kids are able to stop when we're done, that whole coming and going and grazing and sometimes as a kid and your gross spurts, you don't recognize it as a kid.
Retrospectively as an adult seeing it in kids, gross spurts, like sometimes you eat a lot, sometimes you don't. But our parents would put something on our plate and be like, oh, you have to finish it. Or no, you need more. But not understanding where a kid might be in that hunger, not hunger thing based on growth cycles.
And so we get so conditioned to eat more and to go beyond. What we're feeling. And so then we start to identify that I'm done when I'm over full. , I bet many of us actually really struggle with that definition of what is enough feelings. Yes. Yes. Physical feeling in your stomach. Yes. I know that took me, I bet I probably didn't really think about it for into my neighborhood.
Oh, absolutely. I think you start to figure it out like when you're eating a lot more vegetables and like things that aren't as delicious as pizza and ice cream. Because you're like, oh, this, you get actually bored of eating sometimes when you're eating like a lot of fibers, you're like, oh, actually, like this is what full feels like.
Because I also don't want to keep chewing . Sometimes I would recognize that and I'm like, oh, okay. This is where the level is for me. , and then so what's like when you learn that, then you can carry it into those comfort foods where it's oh, I can stop halfway. Chicken bread, steak or whatever.
Yeah. There's that. And then also sometimes when you cook for yourself or you go to certain restaurants where the portion sizes have come down, that is helpful because we are also visual eaters as well. And so I think that can play a role into it, but. Anyways. Yeah. I think for a lot of people too, it's like that, the Clean Plate Club Yes.
Can come from parental direction. It's a learned behavior. It can also be, so It's visual. Yeah, it's visual. It can also be tied to like waste, like , whether that was from your parents or from yourself. It's like this idea of, I don't wanna waste food, so I feel like I have to eat it all because it's not gonna be good tomorrow.
And so we just talk ourselves into overeating for a lot of reasons. And then we're not necessarily connecting it as something that's emotional. And so what I also wanna offer is like we're humans. , we all have feelings. , we are all emotional and we're all driven to want to feel good.
It's most people are emotional eating at some point in our lives, if not even on a daily basis. So I just wanna be clear, it's not like a bad thing that we have to completely eradicate and never do again. I think , I don't, do you know anybody like personally that just doesn't eat any feelings whatsoever or doesn't use food for pleasure ever?
Yes, I do. Yeah. Acquaintances. Yeah. I know, I don't know anybody close, but yes, I know of no acquaintances that basically they do food meetings. Only because that's like an easy way, but they really could care less about food. And so like food meetings, do you mean like hanging out at a mealtime? No, like a work meeting.
Oh, okay. Like a, and so it's just like a convenient way to get work meetings. Add a mealtime for multiple people, but they'll just eat real quick so they can get on to the thing that they really wanted do. Which is to work, but they really could care less about and they eat the same thing over and over and over and over again.
And so yeah, there are people that I am aware of that could care less about food. Yes. Which is fascinating to my brain. So fascinating. Which I guess that's how the ENT stuff came to be like that kid was in college and didn't care about food and so he was just trying to figure out how he could survive and not Yeah.
Have to worry about cooking or sourcing food. Which is a good point cuz even those people that don't have their brain wired for that, it can still be a struggle to figure out the food part because there's le even less desire. So they're like, how do I just make this super functional and easy for me?
Correct. Which we do get. Yeah. So my brain is not that , no. . And I would say most probably 75% of our clients are not that for the most part. , so it's just interesting to think. Oh yeah. There are people out there that, this just doesn't occur to them, which is great.
Yeah. So would you say then that, as you're talking about this, I'm thinking, okay. Would you say that those then, that identify with being a foodie and really needing to get a lot of satisfaction from most of their meals would then fall under. Emotional eating, like 100000% . I know we used to be identify as foodies as you guys.
If y'all listen, then you know, we met in culinary school and it's very much a part of our culture. And that most meals, especially in the United States, because of the wide variety of different foods that we can get from different backgrounds, and so we feel like most of our meals should be exciting in some way.
Yeah, like it's always should be an experience in some capacity. Yes, I, yes. I used to think that every meal should be like the best meal I've ever had. When our coach was teaching this concept to me and she was like, imagine planning a trip to Italy and not even Googling one restaurant. I was like, that's crazy.
Come again. Yeah. I was like, I don't understand. Stay like this does not compute for me, but it really got my wheels spinning. Yeah. That really made me think wow, I put so much value. At least I used to put so much value into the experience of eating food and like the feelings that I gave me and why I did it and , just that aha was so big for me.
Cuz now. I am going to Asheville with some friends and we're like trying to make plans and I'm like, you know what? I really don't care. I think there's one restaurant on my radar. . But if we get to eat there, that's great, but if not, it's not gonna ruin my trip. I'm not gonna think twice about it because it's just not why I'm going.
There's all these other reasons why I want to go on a trip and experience other things. Like the food is. Ancillary Concha. You want things to not be gross. Of course. But I also know that you're not planning it around all of the meal times. Like I know that, where did we go? Was it when we went to California for your trip?
Like eons ago? Yes. And like 2014. It was like a bachelorette party. Yeah. We. You know what? Cuz it was all of us from culinary school, . So we like had we based the whole trip off of where we were eating, screening things. . Yeah. Which is and then the sites were all secondary. It was like we were basically seeing things in between all of the eating events that we had created.
Yeah. Forties. I think when you're in one country, that's like probably gonna happen. But also and I don't know, I guess sometimes you do have to plan things because now everybody needs a reservation and everything's so crowded. So you do have to think ahead about some things if you want to not eat past food but the mindset I think would be different now than , how we looked at it then, where it's yeah, if we get to it, it's great, but if we also like, just need to grab something along the way, it's gonna be fine too. . So yes, the people that I identify as foodies, they're like there.
There's often a fear or they're like, I'm a foodie and I really enjoy food. So like it scares me at the idea of changing my relationship with food because what does that mean? I don't wanna just live off chicken and broccoli. And we don't want that for you either. No. We want people to still have that joy, but also being like, why does every meal need to be that exciting?
, like it was a real good breaking point for me when I was like, lunch gets to be as boring. As I want it to be and be okay with it. . . And so I, it's totally fine for me to have boring meals and by boring, I still taste good. I'm not eating bland things. I have condiments and seasonings and things like that, but it's like my definition of what needed to be really changed.
It's really great. It's very freeing. It's very freeing. Yes. In my head it does offer you freedom because then you're not trying to make everything, you're not asking food to solve the problem of boredom or excitement or to be excitement all the time. . So yeah, you might, so it's like you might be an emotional eater if you're planning your life around the.
if the food is the first focus of every trip, you plan every night out with friends, it's if that is the top of the tier, that might be emotional eating. You're also gonna be more driven to overeat in those situations because if that's the focus and that's why you're there, then it's like you gotta go all in.
, whereas oh, if I'm there to connect with my friends and to catch up, it's like the food is there, I'm gonna enjoy it. , but I also don't need to overeat in that moment because it's not the end all be all. Yo, I have some girlfriends from childhood that now, we all live in Austin now, and so we meet up pretty regularly in one of our.
We do like a Sunday morning for coffee or a Sunday dinner depending on what everybody's schedule is, and we go to the same two places over and over again because we don't really care about the food. And so we just pick a good general meeting location for everybody and it's. The same place over and over again.
We don't really care. We just meet. We're just creating the container of time. Yeah. To be able to meet up and be together. Sometimes the food is even distracting from those connections when it's like a loud restaurant and there's, oh yeah. So I don't know. Sometimes it's oh, I'd rather do something that's not even food related, just so that we can actually like, yeah.
We keep trying that And , yeah. One of the friends like keeps living like can we do something that's not around food? And I. That would be nice. But then like I get distracted. I actually wanna sit down and talk and yeah. Yeah. And then if it's, so that's why sometimes we'll do it around in the morning for coffee and tea, but I just met with a friend at a sauna, so we sat in a sauna and just sweat our faces off.
But we talked the whole time. , huh? I dunno. I thought it was great. I was like, this was great. Cause otherwise I would just be by myself with my thoughts or maybe I'd be tempted to watch the Netflix. They provided this on a place. I don't know. I thought it was a fun meeting. Oh, that is a fun meeting.
Yeah. Yeah. This is too hot to meet up for walks around here. I just can't do it. Yeah. Okay. You might also be an emotional eater if you are a heavy snacker, and I wanna clarify. You can snack if you're hungry. Of course, we're not asking you to not snack if you're hungry, eat. But what we see a lot, or at least I don't know about you, Jessica, but is to change being bored at work or needing a break from work.
So you are snacking to change your state of being. And not checking in to see if you're hungry. Yeah. We've talked about it. It's why are you snacking and do you like your reason? And that's it. . But a lot of times, we're snacking cuz it's oh, I didn't eat breakfast or I had a really light lunch.
Because people are focusing on being good or sticking to their diet for the first half of the day. And then by the second half of the day, they're starving. And then , the snacks go through the roof. And so then it's not like great rhythm. It's not a great pattern to be in.
So thinking about food rhythm and can I put my effort into focusing on getting, my hearty meals in and if I'm still hungry, you definitely get a snack in too. But yeah, living off snacks and just like the snack culture of you go to this store, you go to Costco, they're like, get these kiddo peanut butter cups and these keto oh my god.
Yeah, all of the snacks. And it's we don't really need those and like, why are we eating them? To fulfill something or to feel a feeling that we don't wanna feel or to create a feeling of excitement or joy when we're not feeling that. So yeah, just thinking about like why do we snack might be a clue.
And then yes, you might be an emotional eat if you are overeating. Any form of overeating is emotional eating. We just may not be thinking about it that way. Where it's like I'm just eating to that level of fullness like we talked about, and we're not necessarily connecting it to a sense of feeling or emotion.
, it's more that physical level of fullness that provides that satisfaction and comfort. So just noticing am I. Over full at every meal. Am I snacking till I feel over full? It seems I don't know if that may or may not be a problem for you, , it's only none of this might be a problem for you.
The only reason why we would really wanna examine it or shift the relationship with it is if we're stuck in like that shame, guilt, spiral with these things. Or it may be affecting your physical health. If we're not metabolically healthy or if we physically feel unwell and not able to continue tasks that we wanna do, then , I think it would be something to look for.
But you know what? If you're doing these things and you're totally fine, then just ignore us. Yeah. Cause I was just, as you were talking through that, I was thinking eating fast might be the exception, but then it's why are you eating fast? Because, are you eating fast?
Just to, like you mentioned before, how she was doing it, but there are some people that are eating fast just to get it over with because they don't want to eat slow because slowing down for that much time to properly di you know, for that 10, 10, 15 minutes. To eat by themselves is just too much.
And I just not thought about that. I'm like, oh dang. Not even wanting to spend the time, 10, 15 minutes to eat in a slower way so your brain and your belly can communicate on what's coming in so it can nourish you. Yeah. And so even the discomfort of slowing down. I miss eating more slowly.
And I was actually telling my friend when during this, all this conversation we've had back and forth over the week about emotional eating. I was like, I think one of the hardest transitions into motherhood for me was like not being able to eat the way that I like to eat. Having a newborn and now a toddler who will sit at the table for five minutes and like now it's actually okay cuz like we'll clean him up and now he'll actually go play a little bit while I can sit, eat.
So I'm finally getting back to the ability to enjoy a meal with him. , where before it was like I would just shovel food in because it might be the only chance I get to eat. At that moment. I do remember that. Totally. I hate that. It just, the sensation of eating quickly gives me anxiety.
Yeah, I know, but like I am a fast eater and is so hard to slow down. I can slow down and will slow down, but I have to be really conscious of it. Yeah. Because I've always been a fast eater. Why do you think that is? Cause my family is a fast eater. Just handed down . Yeah, it's, this is so I can like think of our family and my bonus mom is the slowest eater.
by a long stretch. And then I was the middle person, but sometimes I could eat faster than my dad. Yeah. So it's just as it's just how it was. And then college and then, having, when you work jobs, you have 15 minutes on your break to eat. Like some of it was just, over time lifestyle and you just gotta get it and then having a kid, so there were just a lot of times where circumstances were circumstances eating , the need to quickly, yeah.
And it, after having a kid that was the hardest to get rid of was eating that fast. And there are times I'm like, whoa. But yeah I do work at it cuz I know it is a thing. Yeah, it's like just because you're eating quickly doesn't necessarily mean it's emotional, but it is something to think about.
Wait, why am I eating fast? Is this something that I have to do for my survival or can I slow it down A hair ? Yeah. Cause for me, the reason why, it's not to prevent overeat, that is, Particularly, that could be a reason for me, but mostly at a restaurant. But to eat fast, it makes my stomach hurt, so I don't have the best digestion.
So I'm, that's something that I'm often having to work at is to, make sure my digestion is working well and if I eat too fast, then my stomach is not doing so hot. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like the main driver for me is to make sure my body can actually digest all my food. So another reason why you might be an emotional eat is if you find yourself using food as a reward, which a lot of us were taught to do, right?
, it's like we go to the doctor, so no, I've earned an ice cream. Or, I did this thing and now I've earned this thing that we just, we make that connection. , and it's not necessarily tied to physical hunger. Because we think that we earned it and need it to, reward ourselves with food, again, it's not bad or good, it just is, but if you notice that this is a continuous pattern that's not serving you, it's something to consider. What else? I don't know. This one's just a little harder to identify because this is kinda like where my friend was at, right? It's like you're trying to create a feeling with food, but sometimes you don't realize that's what you're doing.
. Yeah. So what's an example of that? Of trying to change the way you're feeling with. I think that's the classic, trying to change how you're feeling with food because for that, for the other reason, I don't know what, but like for me, when I think trying to change a feeling with food is like if you're mad, sad, whatever, and you.
Want that feeling to go away. Food can, for some people, be used in that way. To comfort. Yeah. Or to have an escape. And so that to me is classical emotional eating of what people associate those terms with, but, The other one? I don't know. I would need some time to think about that. Because here's the thing, it's like these, to me, they mean the same thing.
Whether you're trying to create a feeling with food or to change a feeling with food. I'm like, is that not the same thing? But they could be very different. But in both of them, or at least in changing the way you are feeling with food, that means you do know what you're feeling. . It's like I, no, I disagree.
You don't think so? No, because I. The way that it shows up for a lot of people that I have worked with is that they didn't realize that was happening. It's something that they developed early on where they could not put those two together, and so then it continued on through adulthood and then, so it's like the coping mechanism is continued, but they're not connected with the actual.
Correct. Yeah. So then it's then they're, you're also not aware that you're trying to create a feeling like, so there's like avoiding the feeling, but we tried to create a new feeling to avoid the feeling. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I'm not making sense, but , that's, I get it, but yeah. So yeah, it's what are we trying to create?
It's like I'm trying to create a sense of joy, a sense of control, maybe a sense of excitement or even. It might be emotional or it could be physical and it could be both, right? But it's like, what am I trying to do with food? It feels like such a harsh reality or a harsh answer because that little foodie still does live inside me , but it's like using food for any other purpose than just physical nourishment.
Is emotional eating. Yeah. And that's okay. , right? Totally . Cause you know, I, we've mentioned this before, we do still consciously emotional eat. It's like I know that I'm doing this and I'm okay with it and Yeah. Yeah. There's, I think there's reasons why we would want to include it at times, yeah, where this is just what I want. That's okay. So yeah, I just, I guess the whole point of this is I just want people to understand like, it's okay if you're an emotional eater. Maybe you don't identify as one. You don't have to create a sign and carry it around with you. Like we don't have to put labels on things, But it's for the people who are like, I don't know why I'm overeating. Yeah, and for a lot of those people there is an emotional component. Maybe we're just not connecting with it, and so it's what are a series of helpful questions, or how do we get you connected to that so that we can accept it, like ourselves with it, and then maybe it shifts or maybe it doesn't.
It's totally up to you. Very well said.
We keep our eyes peeled for things in the media or in real life that come from DIA culture or that perpetuate Dia culture in some way. These are often the subtle ways it creeps in, which is why we are shining a light on it and cheering it with you. I was talking to my trainer about this. My algorithm, it's not as bad as it was, but it was stuck on like millennials at the gym, like always working how they like record themselves like working out and they have all these like inside gym people jokes and stuff.
And so it's like all these like really super fit muscular people that lift like a lot of weights. It's really amazing to me, and that's not my reality. Anyway, somehow I got into this video and so one of the things that keeps popping up is this concept. Fat burn, but it's within the specific culture. Yeah.
And that the science, the trick golden is not running cuz that will annihilate all things that you're trying to do, blah, blah, blah. But it is doing the treadmill at, it's called 3 12 30. Treadmill at three miles per hour, 12% incline and for 30 minutes. And that is the magical fat burn. That's the magic number.
That's the magic number. And the way that it is presented feels a little bit like it feels di qury to me, I don't, it's so interesting to me cuz it's it's because they're like, this is the way. Yeah. They're like, this is the thing that is gonna definitely burn your fat and to allow for that muscle cut, definition cut looks right.
Yeah. And then any other way, other than like the only other thing that has been offered, what I can tell when I get stuck in these video algorithms is, The stair master thing, and they do that also at a very slow rate. That's funny that you called 12 miles an hour slow, cuz I'm like, that's my no.
12% incline. Oh, three miles per hour. Oh. At 12% incline for 30 minutes. Oh, okay. That's their magical formula. So his take on it, cuz he's seen other things that are similar to that is like one or two people are like, this is the thing, and then everybody repeats it as if. Were truth. How do they make money on that?
I have no idea. Oh. Because I guess the likes and the, and somehow that gets monetized. I have no idea. I'd be curious what they're actually selling. Maybe they're not selling anything. It's them, it's like their personal brand. Oh, so they're like trainers though? Some of them are trainers and some of them are just people that go to the gym and record themselves.
It's a culture I don't understand. I'm Walt. It's like how everybody records their whole life of things. Oh yeah. But it's on the TikTok except for that I watch it on Instagram. Cause everybody puts their TikTok on Instagram. Yeah. You're like, thank you for sharing, cuz I don't wanna be on TikTok. Yeah. So that's the thing that I see all the time is if you run, then you're just drawing yourself.
But if you do this way, it is the way to fat burn. Huh? I'm like, is it, I can see how it's like good for you. Like overall in general. Yeah. Like it's not hurting anybody, but it's just the promise of this is definitely what it's gonna do for you. Yeah. We're it like, we don't, other things will create problems.
Yeah. It's like we don't know that. Yeah, and I guess that's why as DI culture is because ultimately we want people to be able to be free to explore and also to have the wherewithal to know, does this feel good on my body? Is it working for me or is it not working for me? Only, not this random Instagram person that tells you that they know.
So it's sure. Try it. You could always try it, but then if it's not, it doesn't feel good to you, then it's okay to try something else. . Yeah, because I'm thinking 12% incline. Could I do that for, that's deep. 30 minutes. I don't think I, you could, you'd be sore if it was your first time. How many times a week do you have to do that every day?
I have no idea. That is not explained in these quick videos. On the only way to fat loss, cuz I don't know how often these folks do cardio, how much that's right. Played into their thing. Do they do cardio daily? I don't know. I'm not a big heavy weightlifter in that way, so I don't know what the culture is.
In the weightlifting world is so different cuz you're like, this week we're shredding and this week we're gaining and it's like everything is . I love. Really intense. Oh, I feel like that is yeah, that made me think of monster Trucks, so it's like the monster truck rally. I've literally, I've been watching Monster Truck videos with my toddlers, so maybe that's where I've gotten it.
Yeah, I always think, cuz one of my favorite things to do is Sunday. Sunday, . So whatever. It's Sunday. That is like what I think about, even though it's like the most day ever. I'm like ready for it. Sunday. Monster. A rally on my couch. Yeah. So we were watching a monster, this is such a tangent, but we were watching a monster truck video and Josh was like, my husband was like, why is this fun for them?
like the ones where they're like going in the mud and like sometimes they get stuck and he was like, what's so fun about getting stuck in the mud? Now you gotta get out and get your truck outta the mud. I was like, I don't know. This is all my worst nightmare. This is all part of the show, but yes, so anyways.
The shredding and the cutting and the bulking and the things and yeah, I don't get it either. And it's fine. I love people that are able to like, get that into something, as long as it's with, yeah. Like I gotta respect their passion, but also I don't know if I'm gonna take advice from that person because our lifestyles are so different and that's not what I aspire to be.
So am I really gonna listen to you or would I listen to somebody more aligned with the results that I want or whatever. Yeah. And why is that the only way really for me? So is that true? I don't know that's true. Awesome. I sure hope we gave you something new to think about today and helped you take one more step on your path to freeing yourself from diet culture.
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